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I recently wrote a piece in Kyoto Journal's special issue on Gender in Asia (#66, www.kyotojournal.com) about cross-dressing in Korean shamanism. I don't think that "transgender" accurately describes the larger issue: that most charismatic Korean shamans (the tradition North of the Han River that has roots in the Altaic cultures) are women and that from my research (primary and secondary) that the spirits they incorporate are often male military or civil officials or other male gods. There are some male shamans who wear the same ritual clothing as the female shamans, including women's undergarments (slips, shoes, sox) perhaps simply because it fits the current mode of the costumes. I've not seen these men wearing women's hanbok outside the ritual context, nor do most tradition-bent women wear men's clothing. Many Korean female shamans (mudang) are married; some have children and are in many domestic ways in the company of nonshaman women. I will allow my personal instincts to offer here that many of the male shamans (paksu) in this group whom I have had the pleasure to know -- mostly ages 30s - 40s -- may be gay, but there is no documentation to this end. Even so, their "calling" is not toward a gender bending femaleness, rather, they are inspired by the same male spirits.
Another note: a male shaman in Mongolia told me that there are no female shamans; rather, they are medicine women. It's hard to cut through societal gender issues, but in the case of spirituality, one is either in-tune or not. As for Dawkins, he's not invited to the party. Too bad.
I read most of Dawkin's book for a class (I'm a bible college student) and it was truly ridiculous. I was looking forward to being challenged to think outside of the box, have to work to figure out why I believe what I believe, and then defend it. However, what I found was a man bent on showing people how stupid they are for believing in anything beyond themselves. He did not fully explain his points, he assumed that we should already know what we he was talking about, thus uplifting himself with arrogant supiriority and leaving those with little ability to think critically to believe he is truly brilliant and should not be questioned. Of course he's right- he's a scientist!
It was ridiculous. I am very thankful to find someone, though having different presuppositions, who sees through his ranting! Blessings, Christina
I think that Dawkins intent is to lob a polemical (holy) hand grenade at what he sees as a massive international con, and I agree with you that in doing so he seems to want to cauterize as much as he wants to "enlighten." But I don't begrudge him his aspirations at all. He's a gnat dive-bombing a cathedral.
Personally, I understand that religion(s) offer a genuinely important outlet for human spirituality in its myriad forms (and I recognize and deeply respect the importance of this profound - and mysterious - communion). But in my own view a great deal of the appeal of most religions is that they offer - and unfortunately most eventually sell - hope and consolation. The world's a cold place, full of deceit and immorality and so I don't scoff at anyone's desire for a little tenderness, a moral code, and some conceptual apparatus with which to approach and make sense of life. Cards on the table, I don't believe in God, and I think it’s appropriate to introduce that personal information into a thread about Dawkin’s book. Many times I would have liked to have believed in a deity, it would have been a consolation in difficult times. But to me faith in God is as unworkable as trusting in the unseen benevolence (and reality) of the tooth fairy. I can't do it - I just can't. And there's not a shred of proof anywhere to make me change my mind. We as GLBT people know what it's like to be outside the mainstream, the million ironies that attend it, and we (or rather I) occasionally shout ourselves hoarse at those seated comfortably within. I see and recognize that intemperance in Dawkins book. It's not a scholarly meditation; it's a passionate, outraged screed. It intends to throw the religious into a defensive crouch. It intends to lampoon what the poet Phillip Larkin called “that vast, moth-eaten musical brocade created to pretend we never die,..” Dawkins basic argument is that because there are many positive reasons to do so, many people have convinced themselves of things that do not in fact exist. And that’s a fairly lucid contention, in my opinion, and I don’t get the impression he’s actively seeking converts or hoping to start a movement. I don’t agree with you that Dawkins “says nothing about religion.” He does, at length, and provocatively. It may not be what the religious want to hear, but much of it is fairly substantial. And I don’t agree that religion or God are a “straw man” he’s setting up - I’d argue they’re rather substantial, too. (I am certain you know this too and I apologize if I’m reading you out of context - your own point about the excessess of atheist regimes is well made). In my own life I have seen the good that some gay priests have done in despite of the tenants of their faith (I can’t speak for other religions because I grew up in a predominately Catholic Irish community). But I saw vastly more sorrowful sectarian and internal divisions and tensions there than I saw kind works that resembled the true teachings of Christ. I saw physical, sexual and psychological abuse - sometimes profoundly shocking examples. And I saw an ex-boyfriend, one of the kindest and most Christ like people I ever knew, rejected from a seminary to then grapple with his tortured conscience, because he was told that being gay was incompatible with his faith. I admire anyone whose faith or spirit or fortitude calls them to aid their fellow human. But Dawkin’s argues that we do this because – since it manifestly benefits the race - we are rewarded for it in a myriad of ways, and not because it delights an unseen higher power. So I don’t think we should dismiss him as a crank because he takes a thoroughly pugilistic attitude to religion. There are many quotes from his book that are as talismanic and memorable (in their own way) as some contained in the Bible. Thank you for writing this - I’d be interested to hear about your own faith journey, if you feel comfortable sharing it.
FastLad, Thanks for your comments. I love your imagine of Dawkins as "a gnat dive-bombing a cathedral. " When a gnat dive-bombs a cathedral, he ends up a little splat on the side of the cathedral, and that's exactly what "The God Delusion" is: an insignificant little splat on a huge & imposing edifice (i.e., religion). Dawkins might have had more impact if he'd actually addressed the real issues facing religious denominations & institutions today -- of which there are many. Instead, he's written a polemic that is so removed from the actual reality of religion that it will have no impact whatsoever, except to give some encouragement to atheists who already believe as Dawkins does. William James (Henry's brother) produced a classic study entitled "The Varieties of Religious Experience." Dawkins recognizes only one: the religious fundamentalist (whether Christian or Islamic); for someone who champions the 'cause' of science against that of religion -- a binary opposition that sophisticated scientists and theologians alike recognize as a false dichotomy -- Dawkins' approach is fundamentally unscientific. The scientific approach is to look and see what is there. If one does that, one discovers a vast and diverse group of belief systems and experiences ranging from the obvious objects of Dawkins' derision (the Jerry Falwells and Ayatollah Khomeinis) to the figures that I talked about in my post, politically progressive and socially conscious people of faith who oppose the Iraq war and support LGBT rights; Dawkins just doesn't know those people, which means that he's incapable of understanding religious and spiritual experience in its totality and diversity .
There is no God..How much evidence has to be presented in front of your muggins to verify it for you?The only good reason to say Jesus Christ is when you bang your fucking thumb hanging drywall and I don't give a shiza what you religious zealots have to say about it.The eveidence is there that we are on our own and there is no divine being waiting to sweep your sorry ass to some econic place in the sky with flowers and gardens etc..How stoooopid people are how stoooopid.Richard Dawkins you are my God Ha ha ha ha ha.
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